Jonathan Dolhenty & Mark Passio

The Myth Of Moral Relativism (2013, 2019)

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What is Moral Relativism

Moral relativism is the belief that states that there are no fixed values in morality. Values are always changing and relative is the belief. The belief is that values in general change from individual to individual.

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Moral relativism is the belief that states that there are no fixed values in morality. Values are always changing and relative is the belief. The belief is that values in general change from individual to individual.

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Typical Expressions of Piloral Relativism

  • Have you ever heard these expressions? Maybe you have used them yourself?
  • What's true for you is not true for me.
  • Morality is a matter of personal opinion.
  • We can’t judge another person's morality. - All societies have different moralities.

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Why is this part of class Fm Morality?

  • This course asserts that there is a morality and people act as if there is a morality.
  • Assertions that there is no morality are an attempt to minimize immoral actions as being ok.

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Some terms that are important to know.

  • The opposite of relativism is absolutism.
  • Absolute means fixed and unchanging. Norms that are absolute are valid at all time and in all cultures.

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  • The opposite of relativism is absolutism.
  • Absolute means fixed and unchanging. Norms that are absolute are valid at all time and in all cultures.

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Arguments against moral relativism.

1) It's a Logical Contradiction.
  • First, statements such as “all morals are relative to each individual” are a morality.
  • It’s the morality of "anything goes". It's a morality that says all human acts are good and moral. So that person is claiming an absolute moral norm by their first statement. Which means they are contradicting themselves in their opening statement.

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2) Moral Relativists are Hat consistent
  • Moral Relativists make relativist statements, then make absolute statements which show that they don’t really believe that morality is a question of opinion.

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Inconsistency of Relativism.

  • Take for example the feminist movement which claims that morality is a question of person choice in the case of abortion. They are relativist in this instance. Yet when they claim the following actions are immoral, they are in fact showing that they are moral absolutist.

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Examples

  • The treatment of women is wrong in Afganistan by the Taliban.
  • Child-adult sexual activity is wrong and should be punished.
  • Rape is wrong, and should be punished by crime.

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Consistency

If the feminists were consistent in their belief that morality is a question of personal choice, then all the previous activities would be just considered a cultural thing, choices made by individuals and society that we have no business judging. However, they vehemently condemn those activities as immoral, an assault on women and thus with their other beliefs they are also saying they admit there are moral absolute values.

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Lack of Credibility

  • When a person says one thing and contradicts themselves they immediately loose their credibility. What they are saying is they really don’t believe in their own statements.

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Credibility

  • lmagine the person who says that smoking is bad for your health, yet he is found smoking. He really doesn’t believe its bad.
  • Imagine the person who says that a person should not own a gun, yet he does. Does he really believe what he says? Does he have credibility? Think of some other examples.

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Another Ploy of Moral Relativism ‐ But it's Legal!

  • Sometimes a law may hide an immoral act, and it is considered a good act because it’s the law.
  • Look at the following example of acts that we know are wrong by means of the dignity of the human person, yet they were sanctified by the law.

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But its the law

  • Slavery was considered the law of the land.
  • It was legal to take the property of the Jews in World War II.
  • In the United States, Women and African Americans were considered property and had no right to vote.
  • There are many other examples.

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The law

  • The law can’t hide immorality of certain actions. Sooner or later its immorality comes out.
  • Also if the moral relativist is consequent he can’t condemn the most hideous of acts because it can become it can be defended according to personal opinion.

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In Conclusion, Moral gelativism is a contradiction

  • As long as a relativist affirms one absolute value as constant and unchanging, then he contradicts himself.
  • He also contradicts himself the minute he affirms his morality, because he is making an absolute statement
  • Therefore moral relativism is untenable and a myth, since the relativist ultimately admits to a moral value.

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What does this mean?

  • lf then, moral relativism does not make sense then the questions immediately comes to mind. What are those values and norms that are absolute and unchanging? That will be the nature of this course to discover those standards and norms. Some of them will be obvious and easy; like though shall not kill. Others will not be as clear like in vitro fertilization.

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Another question that is important. Human dignity

  • At the basis of morality is the belief that a human being has dignity and therefore you may not take innocent life.
  • What is it that give a human person a dignity and ultimately a value of respect?

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Human Dignity

  • Language
  • Freedom
  • Intellect
  • Spiritual
  • Immortality

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Human Dignity

  • Morality isbased onthe fact that each person has a human dignity and that dignity can not be violated. If it is, then society will place penalties that may be severe.

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Mark Passio Slides

Mark Passio is perhaps the foremost teacher in the world on Natural Law.

Mark Passio Slide - Moral Relativism - The Destroyer of ALL Freedom
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Jonathan Dolhenty Essay: The Myth of Moral Relativism

 By Jonathan Dolhenty

The purpose of this brief essay is to show that moral (or ethical) relativism is a philosophical myth that is accepted by no one who has critically examined its tenets and that those who claim to be moral relativists are really not. We are dealing here with two aspects of a specific condition:

  • First, with a “belief” that states there are no fixed values, there are only fluctuating human valuations, or that ethical truths are relative, that is, the rightness of an action depends on or consists in the attitude taken towards it by some individual or group, and hence may vary from individual to individual or from group to group.
  • Second, with “actions” based on this belief which clearly show that the agent is, more or less, acting or behaving in a way that is consistent with the belief that moral relativism is, in fact, the true and only philosophical position.

As is usually the case in this type of reflective situation, the belief comes first, the action follows, but the action taken tells us something about the commitment to the belief undergirding the action taken.

It is easy in our contemporary society to find statements which apparently show a commitment to moral relativism. Consider just a sampling:

  • What’s true for you may not be true for me.
  • Nothing is really right or wrong, but thinking makes it so.
  • Ethical judgments are just a matter of personal opinion.
  • Anything goes.
  • One man’s meat is another man’s poison (in regard, of course, to morals).
  • We should not judge another’s personal morality.
  • No society is better or worse than another (in regard to social ethics).

The above statements, and ones similar to them, are now bandied about in ordinary conversation as if they were truths about which no one should disagree. Moreover, those who claim to be moral or ethical relativists and are bold enough to declare it would simply say: “All morals are relative and that’s the end of it,” or some such “philosophical” assertion.

Opinion surveys recently taken in America have shown the pervasiveness of the position promoted by moral relativism. For instance, in one survey where adults were asked if they agreed with the statement “there are no absolute standards for morals and ethics,” seventy-one percent said that they agreed with it. Other surveys have shown even higher numbers who think that morality and ethics is a matter of personal opinion and that there are no universal standards by which one can determine the rightness or wrongness of a human act.

Now, I never question what a person tells me regarding his or her personal beliefs, unless I have a valid reason to think otherwise. If someone tells me that truth is a relative matter, then I accept that that is what that person believes. I then consider that person’s actions to see if they are consistent with the beliefs stated. And that is where the “rubber meets the road,” so to speak. I find that those who claim “all truth is relative” may spout that belief, but they never act as if its true. Similarly, I find that those who say they believe in moral relativism never act as if they really do. In fact, I find them to be moral absolutists, not moral relativists. Belief is one thing; actions are another. And it is in the realm of action that moral relativism takes the fatal “hit.”

The old adage “actions speak louder than words” has a special significance here. If the “words” (beliefs) are really committed to by the moral relativist, then his or her “actions” should be consistent with those words or beliefs. And it is precisely here that moral or ethical relativism becomes a “myth.” While many may claim to be moral relativists, their actions show they are not. In fact, their behavior shows them to be moral absolutists of a type, the very opposite of what they claim to be. And it is this point that I want to address in the remainder of this essay.

The self-proclaimed moral relativist does not and cannot maintain his or her commitment to the “philosophy” of moral relativism. In fact, the record clearly shows that these “moral relativists” are not relativists at all, but moral absolutists. This assertion is based on their behavior, not on their alleged support of a philosophical position. To wit:

  • Modern “liberal” political groups who promote “political correctness.” These groups want to suppress what they consider to be offensive language and views. Most of these people claim to be moral relativists, yet they promote a doctrine that includes an “absolutist” program, that is, “statements that are politically incorrect must be eliminated or even made illegal.” No relativism here.
  • Groups promoting “Multiculturalism.” All the beliefs and practices of non-Western cultures must be considered as “good” regardless of the belief and practice, but Western civilization and the “white European” are evil and to be eliminated as soon as possible. No relativism here.
  • Pro-abortion groups. Claiming that morality is a matter of personal opinion, these groups are now attempting to legally quash any opposition to their position. They want “special protection” and do not want to confront any philosophical opposition. No relativism here.

The above are simply examples of “absolutist” behavior parading as moral relativism. But there is more. One of the most vocal and active groups to promote moral relativism in America is the so-called “Feminist Movement.” Yet, even here, we find, not moral relativism as claimed, but moral absolutism. To wit:

  • The “Feminist Movement” says that the Taliban government in Afghanistan was “wrong” in its treatment of women. But, to be consistent, the feminists should say, it is after all just a “cultural” thing and we have no business judging the rightness or wrongness of Taliban culture.
  • The “Feminist Movement” labels child-adult sexual activity as “wrong,” but, to remain consistent, it should say, it’s merely a “personal” opinion. No one should be punished for engaging in such behavior.
  • The “Feminist Movement” should say, to be consistent, “rape” is really in the eye of the beholder. What is rape to one person is making love to another. It’s a matter of one’s point of view.

Now, the “Feminist Movement” is not going to take the moral relativist position; they will take the position of the moral absolutist, the very position they condemn in those who are not in agreement with their particular views. They will say:

  • The treatment of women by the Taliban is wrong and should be changed.
  • Child-adult sexual activity is wrong and should be criminally punished.
  • Rape is wrong, regardless of the perpetrator’s opinion, and should be criminally punished.

None of the above judgments regarding a human act can be judged as right or wrong without appealing to some standard used as a criterion for judging the behavior. This standard, by its very nature, is “absolutist.” Moral relativism cannot appeal to a standard, simply because “relativism” itself means there are no standards.

I could continue with many other examples of the “moral absolutist” masquerading as a “moral relativist.” But brevity forbids it. And, besides, I want to make another important point. The pseudo-moral relativist (because that’s what they really are!) do not really want to convince you that his or her philosophical position is correct or true by engaging in an intellectual discourse. Rather, in American society, the pseudo-moral relativist wants to appeal to the legislative bodies (Congress, et al) or the judiciary bodies (the Supreme Court, etc.) to have their “beliefs” encased in law. This means that what is “legal” is the same as what is “moral,” and nothing else. And this is the final nail in the coffin of the moral relativist.

We are not talking about morality at all! We are talking about positive law. Morality or ethics has nothing to do with the situation. Positive law is now all that matters. Making some “human act” legal is to be distinguished from the “morality” of any human act. All we need to do, according to this philosophical position, is declare something to be “legal” and it is, ipso facto, “moral.” This, by the way, is, in my opinion, the current state of affairs in American society today.

Okay, let us accept that for the sake of the current argument: What is “legal” is equivalent to what is “moral,” as a defining example of moral relativism. The so-called moral relativist is dead in the water. Because if “legality” is to define “morality” then any outrage against such phenomena as the Nazi “Holocaust” or the attack on America by terrorists on September 11, 2001 or the “circumcision” of little girls in many black-African countries or the “abuse” of women in Taliban Afghanistan or the practice of owning black slaves in 19th-century America is misplaced and unfair. These are or were “legal.” Therefore, according to the logic of this type of moral relativists, all these practices are or were “moral.”

No moral relativist I am familiar with will accept the above. They will insist these are “evil” acts. But by what standards, or on what grounds, or by what criteria, if judging human acts is relative matter and there are no absolute standards that can be used to make a judgment? Either all moral principles are relative or there is at least one moral principle which is absolute, or, in the case of the logical positivists and some others, morality is simply a semantic game which has no real content (which is not at issue here since no one really believes that anyway, including the logical positivists who promoted it).

Now, let’s get real. If moral relativists were really sincere in their beliefs, they could not condemn the following practices and would have to say…

  • Cannibalism is permitted if you think it is morally correct.
  • Raping two-year olds is acceptable if that is part of your cultural tradition.
  • Brutalizing your wife is understandable if that is part of your ethical system.
  • Castrating young boys is permitted for the sake of your cultural heritage.
  • Torture is a morally accepted part of your criminal justice system.
  • Human sacrifice is allowed as part of your religious system.
  • Certain groups defined as unwanted by your society can be destroyed.
  • There is no such thing as a war crime; it’s in the eye of the beholder.
  • Adolf Hitler should not be judged as morally reprehensible since he was acting lawfully.
  • Josef Stalin was not acting immorally when he killed millions of innocent people.
  • The suicide bombers of September 11, 2001 were acting properly in their own interests.
  • Anything goes. Anything goes. Anything goes. We cannot judge.

There is no way the declared moral relativist can get around this issue. If there is not at least ONE absolute, objective standard or principle or proposition of moral philosophy or ethics, one that can be used to further develop a system of objectively-based moral philosophy, then “anything goes.”

Finally, I get back to the initial position I was trying to argue. Moral or ethical relativism is a “myth.” That is, no one really believes in moral relativism, in spite of what one might say. All one has to do is look at the “actions” of the moral relativist instead of concentrating on the beliefs espoused. Self-proclaimed moral relativists appear to be guilty of hypocrisy, saying one thing but practicing the opposite. And, finally, moral relativism is just another example of “intellectual insanity,” the attempt to remake and reshape reality into what one wants it to be, rather than accepting reality as it is and dealing with it rationally.

There has to be at least ONE rational, objective standard by which human beings can judge the rightness, the correctness, or the appropriateness of human actions. There may be more, but there has to be at least one. It is the discovery of this rational, objective standard that is the object of what we call moral philosophy or ethics.

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